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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Shikari83 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:57 pm

What do the residuals look like? I'd have thought the Audi would be better therefore narrowing the gap on price. I'd take the S3 out of them both but much prefer the look of the saloon but again it's extra cost. I'd still have an M135i over any of them though.

Just a warning on waiting times, a workmate ordered an S3 sportback in July from Sheffield Audi. He's being told mid March for delivery lol. Complete joke really!
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Pulp84 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:52 pm

Golf R residuals are £16100 for 5 door with DSG. S3 Sportback S tronic is £17625. Both based on 36 months with £4500 deposit.

So not factoring in discounts they both come in around £430 a month.

The 135i is an interesting car. Its same price as S3 for similiar spec but has much bigger discounts available. Got offered £4000 off without trying. 5.9% finance too. But interestingly due to its poor balloon payment (approx £14500) it was much more expensive to finance than the S3. It needed a £7300 deposit :o to get repayments down to the same level as the S3 with no discount applied. With discount the 135i was slightly cheaper to finance.

The 135i I found had an inferior gearbox, poor cabin quality, was cramped and dog ugly to look at! It does make a nice noise but it is mostly fake. You can adjust the symphosied engine sound through the car speakers, turned down the 135i is not very loud. The S3 does sound great and makes fantastic up change noises too. Its amplified in the S3 but only by a flap in the bulkhead. I test drove a 135i about a month ago on some greasy roads and found it wallowed a fair bit and was not very sure footed. It's just not as polished in comparison to the S3 and I would have thought it would fall down against the R too in this regard.

Regarding build slots for the S3, some dealers have slots that will take 3/4 months and some have slots at 6 months. Depends on the size of the dealership. Some early adopters have been caught out with long waits where as some people have ordered later and got theirs early. Just doesn't make sense!

The 135i however takes 3 weeks to build. Either BMW have too much build capacity or they just are not that popular.....
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Lofty » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:11 pm

Very cheap lease deals on the 135i and BMW in general. Mercedes also do very good lease deals, VW sometimes do the odd decent deal, Audi very rarely.
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby namster » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:50 pm

Lofty wrote:Very cheap lease deals on the 135i and BMW in general. Mercedes also do very good lease deals, VW sometimes do the odd decent deal, Audi very rarely.


Yes, not sure what that means for the 135i in 2 years time.

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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Mojito » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:48 pm

What about a Merc A45 AMG? Not sure on what PCP deals or discounts are available though.
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby SPIKE » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:54 am

It seems the general opinion is to get the S3. The saloon is an interesting option...a more of a gentleman's fast car.
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Pulp84 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:33 pm

Mojito wrote:What about a Merc A45 AMG? Not sure on what PCP deals or discounts are available though.


No discounts and silly money to finance. With the right spec they are over £40k. At £5000 down and £650 a month I just could not get the Mrs to sign it off. It was fun to drive and even the Mrs said it put a smile on her face with the sheer drama of the thing. It was just a bridge too far for us in terms of cost. To live with every day, again, I'm not sure it's as polished as the S3 / R.

The saloon does look nice! I asked about this at the dealer the other week but again, June 2014 delivery :o :shock:
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby GRE57Y » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:03 pm

So it seems like the order for my S3 may be going in tomorrow! AHHHHH! Excited and nervous at the same time!
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby Pulp84 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:08 pm

Nice!

You manage to get a discount? I'm still planning to hold out but might cave in if I see any more pics on forums!!
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Re: Audi S3 vs Golf R

Postby GRE57Y » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:16 pm

They've offered £500 deposit contribution added to my £1,000 and free Sat Nav as well... And my A1 is in negative equity due to higher than anticipated mileage which they're happy to cover the difference.

Shopping around though if i place an order and I'm prepared to wait i could save £17/month on repayments. I wish I wasn't so impatient but I don't like the risk of the equity gap getting too large :(
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